Board Thread:Announcements/@comment-25286508-20150113095309/@comment-25286508-20150118044246

@ Kam Please do not delete posts not belonging to yourself; it's unbecoming. I'll repost this yet again..

Well didn't think this would side track this quickly but I'll try and address the points:

@ Dai 1-2. no comment, 3. judging from your and his past comment history it's safe to assume as such @ Kam I mean you no disrespect but you're the kind of individual that doesn't know when to quit fuelling the situation. None of my "weird experiments" were ever connected to the main wiki, all tests are done in Template: and User: so I don't know what you're getting at. As far as respect is concerned, wise words from you: "don't be a dick and i wont either all i'm saying is treat me with some common courtesy and you will receive the same". I'd say to the contrary, but who am I to say?

@ WS It's not so much jealousy as it is frustration to get complete access to the perfect wiki platform. I've said this previously I believe; this wiki is perfect: it's a massive text/file dump, ugly as sin, and had no curator. It's the perfect wiki to test your mettle against if you're serious enough. Unfortunately I've been mete with constant setbacks.

I'll make this brief, it's always good policy to be curt and concise.. In regards to general primary drive force of this wiki, I'll no longer make claims to that as it's a toss up between yourself and me. You mention contributions and what not-- point is it's not the amount of times you contributed, it's the quality of the content. You can make hundreds of copy editing and it still would pale in comparison to one legitimate original contribution. Both Kam and Dai are just doing copy editing, something anyone that has ctrl, c, v keys can do. But I digress, you mention Dai being the reason for the wellbeing of this wiki, that's not case, it's reTranslate more than anything else.

During the inception of this wiki til the day I joined this wiki was more or less a shoddy mirror of reTranslate's reMonster-- obviously that has since changed. Mind you I didn't join this wiki due to Dai or the rest is doing copy editing, hell the articles for the most part were totally undecernable to matter, the average site visitor would open the site then promptly close it. I joined due to reTranslate mroe than anything else, pretty sure the same can be said of the early wiki members of reMonster wiki.

Now in regards to Kam, if we met on a different footing I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be in this present situation. But as far as the establishment of your translation group is concerned. The sad fact is, anyone could do it, even yourself. It only takes two clicks to make a new page on wikis. And again, copy editing sure it pats your edit count, but as I said it's a question of quality vs quantity. You can have a Lambo but without the engine it's just an overly expensive paper weight. That engine in a sense is the legitimate contributions as opposed to copy editing I mentioned earlier. As far as the other Kyoo is concerned; he's a upstanding individual like his enthusiasm if he kept it up in a month or two I wouldn't doubt if he becomes as studied as myself as far as wiki'ing is concerned. He's another legitimate contributor actually taking the contents read and reforming it into his own words as well as not being afraid doing wiki code work. Hope he's doing well.

I'm going to skip addressing the flowery statements, it's good policy to be curt. The main point you're getting at is that I don't notify others of my contributions to this wiki.. thing is there isn't a point to notify others since it doesn't affect them or the wiki in general unless they specifically go into the test pages I'm working on. In the case that I make a modification that affects the wiki a great deal I make sure to make notification, such as the time highlighting the issue of the wiki navbar taking a considerable amount of space, etc. For pages that are private, and or disconnected from the main wiki in general I see no point in notifying and in doing it.

Dai is also not without faults. As the primary coordinator, it is expected of him to regularly act as a facilitator to those he is in charge, not the other way around. Unfortunately I've failed to observe that. And might I note, indirectly it is partially his fault causing Kam to set the current air of hostility.

I'll conclude with this: there's no need for to you to set an ultimatium on any of our parts. In case these state of affairs persists I'll simple take my leave of this wiki. There are other horizons out there.

random points of interests: - copy editing vs legitimate contributors; quantity vs quality - it's good to be curt and concise - a successful organization requires adequate team facilitator(s) - flaming others does no one any good.