Talk:Rou/@comment-27825886-20160720044953/@comment-112.201.80.146-20160720164440

Uh, it doesn't really matter what the original topic was, man. That's been answered and, without any further clarification from Shijayy, it's case closed. There's no "petty details" being discussed here. There's simply a new topic.

Why do you think just anyone can learn it? Nothing has been stated to that effect. For anyone to even make a grimoire on End magic, they'd have to know how to use End magic in the first place, don't you think? And to innately learn it, you gotta be blessed by a Great God.

Abyss and Void are the same thing, different translations. Why are you telling me this? It's completely different from End/Demise. I've been telling you this. Void is different from End/Demise, and then you're suddenly talking about Abyss and Void.

When Sei first explained to Rou how to use magic, she told him about the systems she knew about. This is really early stuff. She told him she knew Void and Flame magic, but that she learned them differently. Flame was inherent to her while she had to learn Void from grimoires. Why are you arguing about this? Or questioning this at all? There's no if's about it. And no, I didn't get anything wrong about Void. It's right there in Blosato's side-story. There's even only one PoV side-story of hers. Why didn't you even bother checking it before telling me you think I'm wrong?

There's nothing wrong with what I'm saying. Void/Abyss is a completely separate system of magic from End/Demise. It exists. It was the one other system of magic Sei knew as a Hobgoblin apart from Flame magic before she met Rou. One of Void/Abyss' spells could suppress sound. You think Wind magic can do that? Not at all. Rou's air control ability can. By creating a vacuum. Otherwise known as a void. If you're going to challenge any of these points, at least do the minimum and check first.

Why do you think Desperado's instant kill effect is stronger? In the first place, the reason why Rou used the Burst Roar was because it would be harder to kill some of the members of the Crusade army with Desperado. That is, the beings at a high enough racial/physical level to resist the instant kill effect. How can it even be stronger? It doesn't work at all beyond a certain point; if it doesn't work, Desperado simply applies the status abnormalities. I told you this. Burst Roar applies the status abnormalities in addition to killing everything Desperado's instant kill effect would work on and likely even beyond that, then damaging the ones it can't kill as it did with the 2 Saints and the Beast King (the Devil Emperor got off easy since he had his summon take care of it for him, though his summon got pretty full from absorbing the energy).

On what basis do you make the claim that Desperado's instant kill effect is stronger anyway? To put it in game terms, it's not a chance based, it procs based on level gap.