Board Thread:Announcements/@comment-25286508-20150113095309/@comment-25978970-20150117180823

ENOUGH

Such blatent ignorance is quite enough out of each and every one of you.

Oddysy, the hostility and jealousy ends here and now. If the need for another Bureaucrat comes along you are the most obvious candiate. There isn't anyone fromt the community itself that would doubt that you have made substantial contributions to the wiki and community.

The fact of the matter is that much of the reason this status has not gone to you is that it pertains to your attitude and hostility to the other members of the administration.

I have made several attempts to curb your hostility and made suggestions as to how you could properly approach this subject, but the fact remains that you had not mentioned that you decided to simply go over all of our heads and make an appeal to someone else to force the community's hands in this matter.

Here is the plain and simple fact of this matter, while they may not contribute in the same form or same obvious manner that you do, both Kamerond and Daitains have provided hundreds of contributions to this wiki. There is no grounds to fully suggest that you are the only individual on this entire wiki that makes any real effort to improve it. If you don't remember, it was Daitain that adopted the wiki in the first place and made efforts to establish the wiki. If he hadn't stepped in, then there would be NO ONE who is active on this wiki. As for Kamerond, he makes near daily changes and improvements onto the articles around the wiki, as well as aiding <> with his full ability while I was in the process of setting it up. He made every attempt within his ability to help myself and the rest of the volunteers in being able to add further content to the wiki. This is something that I will continue to appreciate even after <> finishes catching up to Re:Monster.

As for the other admin, he has made it quite clear that he has other matters in his personal life that prevents him from continuing to be involved. I have looked through his contributions and the fact that he has done so much leaves me with very little room to come up with complaints if I even wanted them.

The fact that I have been agreeing with you to this point was because I could understand your reasoning and what you wanted to do with the status. It was for the full purpose of improving the quality and usability of the wiki to it's fullest. To that end there was no reason any of us would have had a problem in seeing your suggestions implimented. Even if you did not recieve the promotion, the current person who has the possition would be able to impliment them. At this point I will state my own opinions.

You are a very helpful and honest person that has put more than your fair share of work into the wiki. The amount of changes and improvements that you have made for the sake of the wiki, the sheer amount of time that you invest into making everything perfect, commands my respect. The fact that after hearing my request to have improvements done on the Live Chat system, you went out of your way to invest over a dozen hours to improving the feature, doing research on the codes required to implement all of the features that I thought would be beneficial to the live Cleaning sessions that i do. Simply beyond anything that I could have wished for, you went to the moon and back in my expectations. Now, the fact remains, you are missing tact when it comes to making requests of others. When it came to the Bureaucrat status, even before coming to discuss your plans and everything else, you had already gone above their heads to get what you desired. The reasoning for the hostility that you recieve from the other admins is not due to the fact that you do more than they do and find some form of jealousy from it, they see you constantly doing hundreds of changes without even considering their opinions. Doing whatever you pleased without even stopping to think about how others would take your changes as if you were the only admin present. This attitude simply needs to be changed soon, otherwise these level of conflicts will only escalate and lead to splits within the community in twain. To that extent I will not stand by silently any further.

To that end Oddysy stands not the only individual who holds blaim in this situation.

But first, i have to thank Daitains for your reasonable and mature reaction to this situation. If you had taken greater offense and had allowed yourself to take further steps for the sole fact that you were insulted by another admin would have made my opinions greatly differ than they are currently. I should also note that because of your calm actions this situation only escalated as far as it did.

Kamerond, a large portion of Oddysy's frustrations lie with you and how you have treated this situation thus far. The matter stands that the way that you speak with Oddysy leads him to further independant actions. That is not to say that your approach to the situation is not understandable by this point, but this fact remains. This point is only furthered by your emotional and unprofessional comment that you have just made in response to discovering what Oddysy has been doing. It was that very attitude that led him to believe that he couldn't find any support for anything that he was doing here. I cannot be fully certain as to how interactions between Oddysy and Daintains had been before I had come here, but in this time i have seen several instances of how you speak to Oddysy, Kamerond. It is quite clear to most of us in the community that you two don't see eye to eye period, to that end it would normally be fine if both parties held a certain level of professionalism and were able to see the larger picture. At this point it is clear that while you also lack the ability to deal with this situation properly. The only person right now that I see no faults with is Daintainsg. Where do you even dare to come off saying that Oddysy would cause this Wiki to fall down hill. He has done just as much to improve and build this wiki as you or I have. In fact I have no place to even say that I have done improvements to this wiki, i've just put some chapters for the Light Novel on this wiki and several days later I received Adminship for it. You both have been on this wiki for months! You both have changed this wiki from the pathetic shape that it was in from the previous owner who had abandoned this wiki. NEITHER ONE OF YOU has any right to say that the other party is of ANY detriment to the longevity and prosperity of this wiki. YOU BOTH have gone out of your way to help the community when you can, sure there are times where either of you can be a bit blunt and there are times where there could be more tact in your tone, but that does not change a single fact that this is A WIKI MEANT FOR THE COMMUNITY. Neither of you would do anything to cause the wiki to suffer. Just yesterday Oddysy undid nearly two hours of his hard work in working with Rau's profile page because the community was unhappy with the changes. He didn't complain at all, he simply listened to the community's concerns and complied. Where in this manner of behavior would lead you to even come close to implying that this wiki could go down hill if he were to become Bureaucrat. If you had issues with how he opperated, you should have been more open to make discussions. You may think that you had done more than what is required of you when it came to this, but if you had a serious issue with how he behaved or how he operated, then you certainly did not put enough effort to share your thoughts in these regards.

The two of you need to seriously stop fighting over something so trivial. You need to come to terms that you are the representative for a wiki that receives over 30-40 thousand visitors daily. That is the reality behind the community. You three are maintaining a community of over 30,000 strong, all of them visiting this wiki for information and enjoying the content available to them because of your efforts.

The bickering over who is at fault is over, both parties have some fault and both parties are fully in the wrong in this situation. Simply because Daitainsg is behaving as he should in this situation.

There will be no more on this matter, period. If this matter continues I will seriously renounce my administrator status and leave this wiki. While Daitiansg is quite reasonable in his approach, if Oddysy and Kamerond are unable to start communicating, there will only be more conflicts in the future. For the sake of the community I am saying that you need to stop now. I will seriously pick up whomever in <> that will follow me and establish a public google document for the sake of the community. I wont stop cleaning the Days simply because two admins are fighting, but I will not subject them to fighting factions between the administration. If it comes to a point even further than it is now I will embargo the wiki of the content that <> produces. I wont remove what we've already put onto the wiki, but if you two fail to behave in a manner fitting of admins and continue on this path, I will embargo the wiki of <> Material. Now, this is the most extreme future possible and there is almost no chance for this to happen at all. I have no intentions of simply leaving the wiki over some mere squables, I am doing this for the community, and only when I see that the experience for the community is effected by such would I truly leave. I have witnessed this situation 10 times before during projects that i've worked on in the past, each time the group would be split into two because the parties couldnt reconcile with one another. I'm not saying you two need to like each other, but you are going to start communicating and sharing ideas with one another. If you two do that, the amount that can be acomplished for the community Doubles.

With all of this said, this entire matter is over.

Oddysy, from your actions, you need to demonstrate that you are capable of working with others, even if they don't agree with every one of your changes, even if they don't understand sometimes. It is the job of a admin to be able to explain and exercise patience, until you can show that then there is no reason for a promotion to be given.

With this last point made, I'm finished with this.

I am One Hundred Percent serious on this matter, start acting like the professionals you are supposed to represent for the wiki. People or not, you hold an important possition and represent this entire wikia.

I don't ever want to see the administration breaking down and insulting each other again Period, this matter is over.

~White