Talk:Monsters/@comment-208.169.87.118-20150514174727/@comment-4784862-20150514183122

Black Wolves were on the same level as a Hobgoblin, roughly...even then, if the leader was good then they were superior (only reason Rou and co won was cause they took the leader out first and caught them by surprise).

The Hind Bears...are roughly the strength of an Ogre beforehand, iirc. It's said that the Red Bear, which is a Hind Bear variant, can easily defeat a normal Ogre...and it's considerably more powerful than the Hind Bears it's derived from.