Thread:Champsy/@comment-4784862-20150611015924

I'm going to just post the message itself from Rou's page before I ask my questions, since it's easier for me =p ...

For the Demon one he learns...

【上位鬼種生成】 - it should be either 【Summon High Demon】 or 【Summon Greater Demonkind】...the second one is the "literal" translation of it, but in the case of Demons, I think having it be "Summon High Demon" sounds better, myself.

Most of the other summon ones don't sound better this way, though. I'll defer to the common opinion on this matter, I guess...but that's my opinion on it. ^^

Also, keep in mind that this appears to be the  only  one that I can see that has the "Kind/Species/etc" in there, so maybe it's meant to  be  "Demonkind"...it's hard to say. I still prefer High Demon in this case myself, though. =p

If you look closer at the Jisho.org results for the devil/satan ones he learns all at once...there's "fiend" in there, too.

I personally think having it as fiend is the best way to do it for this reason:

Now...the final one..."fiend" doesn't show up as an option in the Jisho translation...but one of the aggregator results kicks it back, and I'd say that it's close enough to "push" it to that, since I think that "Archfiend" sounds awesome. =D
 * 【下位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Lesser Fiend】
 * 【中位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Average Fiend】
 * 【上位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Greater Fiend】
 * 【大悪魔精製】 (Synthesis of these 3) - 【Summon Archfiend】

The dragon ones...

Personally, I think 【Summon True Dragon】 sounds best...and it's basically an ability that lets him summon just about any dragon that he's stronger than. It also says the "summoning cost is low and there are many advantages. it's also very strong." It also seems to be possible to unlock more dragons from it, etc. Makes sense since it's combining the other 3 abilities. :D
 * 【下位竜生成】 - 【Summon Lesser Dragon】
 * 【中位竜生成】 - 【Summon Average Dragon】
 * 【上位竜生成】 - 【Summon Greater Dragon】
 * 【真竜精製】 (Synthesis of these 3) - this could be either 【Summon True Dragon】, 【Summon Pure Dragon】, 【Summon Real Dragon】, or 【Summon Genuine Dragon】.

These are what I could gather from the author's ability list, as well as from reading the descriptions briefly.

There's also the option of changing all the summons to be "Summon Low/Mid/High-Ranking ~Insert_Species_Type_Here~"...I like this idea in a way, because it makes the "Average" summon work better.

However, I'm perfectly satisfied with Lesser/Average/Greater/(Special name for all 3 synthesized together) since it does explain it properly. Just throwing that fact out there, though I wouldn't want to go through and replace all the instances myself, heh. XD

Basically...what I'm asking is the following:


 * 【下位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Lesser Fiend】
 * 【中位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Average Fiend】
 * 【上位悪魔生成】 - 【Summon Greater Fiend】
 * 【大悪魔精製】 (Synthesis of these 3) - 【Summon Archfiend】
 * 【下位竜生成】 - 【Summon Lesser Dragon】
 * 【中位竜生成】 - 【Summon Average Dragon】
 * 【上位竜生成】 - 【Summon Greater Dragon】
 * 【真竜精製】 (Synthesis of these 3) - 【Summon True Dragon】

Would you say that these should be this way? I really like the "Fiend" part because of what the final synthesis results in (and the kanji for the 3 abilities its synthesized with can be "Fiend" according to Jisho and the aggregator).

My other big question is...

【上位鬼種生成】 - it should be either 【Summon High Demon】 or 【Summon Greater Demonkind】.

The latter one is pretty much the literal translation (it literally DOES say "Demon Kind/Species/etc")...but unless we eventually see a Lesser and Average Demon Summon ability...I personally think it should be 【Summon High Demon】, but I'm looking to make a consensus here. :D 