Board Thread:4. General Discussion/@comment-124.83.16.225-20160127164816/@comment-4784862-20160223051658

124.83.16.225 wrote: All soul weapons Rou won in this war are Sacred Treasures. Even if the heroes themselves didn't possess it (like the hero who used chakrams or the one who commanded demon birds), when Rou won against them, he received the Sacred Treasures they would have wielded had they unlocked it. This is the effect of stealing most of the gods' divine power and turning it into a weapon. Them having died doesn't change the fact that the weapons contain this divine power.

The ones that had "God" in the name of their weapons have unlocked more of their Sacred Treasures' abilities.

As long as we're hypothesizing what treasures Rou is willing to share, maybe he'll give Kanami the Love Hero's weapon too, eh? To amplify her Charm power, I mean. I find it hilarious how little the Love Hero was able to do against him. Felt sorry for her, though.

Wouldn't surprise me, but it's definitely more likely that he'd give her the bow, since she's been using Failnaught (and that sword, of course) for so long. Also...yeah...it's hilarious how little she was able to do...because he's already completely in love w/the women he's with, and all he wants is to DEVOUR HER FLESH. XD

Orthanos wrote: is it me or does this war and all the sacred treasures being phantasmal level make Phantasm class seem a little cheap now?

I mean we had Velvet who solidified his place as "BAD ASS" for just the legendary stuff he had. people went to war for legendary class stuff but now all of a sudden every one has a phantasm class item..... and if you say that its because of their god gives them stories or destinies, then couldn't Velvet be like that too.

I mean that this war kinda lowers the value of phantasm class stuff.

Or is it just me?

As the anon guy said after you, they start out as Legendary. There are a couple that are probably CLOSE to Phantasmal, but the vast majority of them are Legendary.

121.54.54.41 wrote: No, they're Legendary. They have to UNLOCK the power of their Sacred Treasures to raise it up to Phantasmal rank, and the only one who has done that is the Holy King. However, his Sacred Treasure is only Phantasmal rank in name, but is still closer to the power of a Legendary rank item.

Although, the Savior and the 2 Saints' weapons are probably Phantasmal rank?

All that said, the treasure chest Rou receive will undoubtedly have a few Phantasmal rank items in it.

The Savior's probably is at least, since she got a "sudden evolution into a Hero" thing so she could fight against Rou. The Saints...maybe...but hers is most likely one, at least.

That said, like you said, the treasure chest will undoubtedly have them........and it wouldn't surprise me if the two spears Rou receives for defeating everyone (that he gets when he gets the Dungeon Seed) are already Phantasmal weapons, based on his level and the trial he had to overcome just to  GET  them.

If they're not, they're probably really close to it, at the very least...but I can't really think of them as NOT being Phantasmal...unless the author explicitly states that they aren't in an item description or something like that. =x